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Letter 21483
Question on refinishing cymbals
[Michigan]
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Can anyone tell me if you can refinish cymbals (Brass)? I have
some cymbals that are starting to turn dark and they have small green
and dark spots on them. I tried some brass cleaning solutions that
cleaned them a little, but I want them to shine like the day I bought
them. Also, is there way to color cymbals? Paiste had cymbals that
were colored and I wanted to know how they did it or can it be done
on existing cymbals. So if anyone can help me out, it would be
appreciate it.
Thanks!!
David P [last name deleted for privacy due to age of
posting]
- Dearborn, Michigan, USA
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As a long time drummer, I have some answers for you. You
can clean your cymbals with
Brasso [link is to product info at Amazon] or a
similar product, but it will take a lot of work, and you
should go with the grain of the cymbal. But before you do,
consider this - cleaning your cymbals will change the
sound(pitch) of them, is this what you want? I had a jazz
instructor who only bought used cymbals from pawn shops
because he thought they had the best sound. I found that he
was right and I haven't cleaned my cymbals since (20 years).
As far as the coloring goes I remember Paiste offering
colored cymbals, but never heard of anyone doing it to old
cymbals.
Hopes this helps.
Alan K [last name deleted for privacy due to age
of posting]
- Crete, IL, USA
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Cleaning won't change the sound of the cymbal in the why
that you might think. Cleaning cymbals only brightens them,
back to the sound as which you bought them. The gunk is
oxidized metal and dirt. It causes the the cymbal to vibrate
or resonate differently. I like my cymbals clean. I bought
them because I liked the sound that came from them off the
shelf.
John C [last name deleted for privacy due to age
of posting]
- Riverside, CA, USA
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Do not clean your cymbals with that brass stuff it costs money.
Just clean your cymbals with a simple cotton rag (non-abrasive) and
some dish soap. it does wonders. I've been doing it for 25 years and
my cymbals look brand new and sound the same too.
Miguel H [last name deleted for privacy due to age of
posting]
- Burbank, CA, USA
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I think cymbals should be shiny and clean that's why I
clean mine... I've been doing it for 37 years.. Hi Miguel I
know you. how are you?
Tim N [last name deleted for privacy due to age
of posting]
- Burbank, CA, US of A
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I just wanted to say that I used just about everything
out there until I found
Countertop Magic. This stuff works
great. I tested it out on the mud guards on my jeep and it
last ten times longer than armor all. Try it once and you
will get hooked.
Seth W [last name deleted for privacy due to age
of posting]
- Michigan
Ed. note: Not sure how being good for mud flaps
translates into being good for cymbals, but there it is.
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I'm an American sittin down here in Malaysia for 25
years, got a rock and roll bar and grill, I own 4 drum sets
but really play guitar. Got all sorts wackin my drums and
I'm the one who maintains them and cleans them. Sittin in
the tropics and outdoor gigs really git the cymbals funky.
Sweaty hands take'n them down take their toll. I've worked
my butt off tryin to clean them with all the name brand
polishes and cleaners.I always let them go too long between
cleans too! A local Malaysian drummer gave me this little
recipe...tamarind paste! ??? huh? Tamerind tree nuts is like
a date palm and this is the paste from it's date-like
nuts.It's used in cooking a lot of Asian dishes.
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Take a basin with enough water to cover your cymbal and put a hand
full of this tamerind paste in an mix it around.Put your cymbal in
for about 10-15 minutes and it comes out shining!It must be an acidic
reaction.Don't do too long cause they'll turn pink!Locals use it for
cleaning brass bits and it really works!If ya can find the stuff. I
git it by the pound for next to nothin down here. No scrubbin or
nothin just rinse off with water after.

mark ruffin
- melaka Malaysia
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Hello my name is Alex
I would like to know how to clean my cymbals properly!
I have got new cymbals from Zildjian and I got Zildjian
cymbal cleaners too. I've done it once but it seems to
removing a green kind of dust?
I would like to know how to clean it properly if that's
alright.
Thanks
Alex I [last name deleted for privacy due to age
of posting]
drummer - Sunshine Coast, Qld, Australia
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Ultra bright toothpaste works really on brass cymbals and gives
them that shimmering look.
Billy M [last name deleted for privacy due to age of
posting]
- Beverly Hills, California, USA
Ed. note: Letters 18876 and
18885 are also about cymbals.
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This shop I know of has a "hot tank" they use to boil out
radiators, gas tanks etc. I was thinking about taking an old cast off
cymbal to them for a dip and see what happens. I believe the solution
would be caustic, but the question would be how aggressive it is, and
then possible after effects, like turning black or something.
Obviously I have been too chicken to seriously look into this at
least so far...
Mike F [last name deleted for privacy due to age of
posting]
- St. Joseph, MO, USA
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It's not a good idea, Mike. Hot strong caustic will "dezincify"
brass.
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Ted Mooney, P.E.
finishing.com
Brick, New Jersey
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September 3, 2007
Building cymbal cleaning machine out of sears grinding
machine! Hello there! I been looking forever trying to get
the right stuff to take off the bad sludge that attacks my
grooves. I took apart a grinder from sears, but the cymbal
will not lock down tight enough to hold from spinning. It
was a good idea,but still needs more work as somebody in the
world could make this tool for all the non-shiny cymbals out
there. Perhaps putting hole in the top will do it , but
don't know about losing the pitch or the sound? somebody
please come up with product other than elbow grease! Maybe
the cymbal co.'s Would not like the machine but we will
still require polishing paste so all will benefit. Maybe
there's a company out there that cleans them for a price!i
Once took them to car wash to get detailed, but was not as
good as the work I done on them. So, still waiting for some
better idea's! Thanks
TOMMY FLANAGAN
DRUMMER LOOKING FOR SOLUTION! - WEEHAWKEN, NJ, USA
October 16, 2007
I have search high and low for a cleaning solution for my
husbands cymbals. I checked around and found bar keepers
friend ( sorta the consistancy of comet) but made for brass
etc. I cleaned a heavily oxidized cymbal to a bright shine
in about 20 minutes. When I say heavy oxidization I mean it!
I am a glass artist and I regularily polish zinc, brass and
copper but I have never cleaned anything this bad. For the
really bad stuff on the first polish, I made a slighly
liquid paste and put it on, waited about 5 minutes then
rinsed it off, then I diluted it more and scrubbed with the
grain of the cymbal, I kept watering it down with a spray
bottle until it was shiny! both sides too. Then I followed
it up with my stained glass finishing compound which took
off the really fine corrosion and will protect the finish
for months!.....he liked it alot and now he wants me to do
the rest! Great.
Michelle St.
Denis
- Tulsa, OK, USA
March 13, 2008
I have a pair of Zildian ZHT hi-hat cymbals that are only
a few months old. I used to use Brasso which worked well,
but I couldn't find it and think I just made a big mistake.
I used Tarn-x and it is completely removing the gold finish
and turning it to more of a silver-looking finish. I have to
use it to finish it now as the color is too different to
stop. Has anyone used this before, and am I right that I
really screwed up? Thanks.
Spencer Gary
- San Antonio, Texas, USA
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April 3, 2008
I've played for over 25 yrs, and have tried many different
compounds, polishes, cleaners, ect ad nauseam. The best thing I've
found (and it works on both the natural finish, and brilliant finish
cymbals) is a two part system. First clean the cymbal with
Barkeepers Friend [link is to product info at Amazon] (real
cheap). I spray the cymbal with water, then lightly sprinkle the
powder on the cymbal. Using a damp sponge clean with the lathing
grain, then rinse with water and towel try. If it is really dirty,
repeat the first step. Now use a cymbal specific polish, and follow
the directions on the polish. The one thing I found out is that once
you clean the cymbal, it is much easier to polish, and it uses less
polish (more economical :o)). I recently bought a cymbal from a guy
who never cleaned his for sonic reasons. It was that dark bronze
(almost brown) color, and after about an hour it looked like I just
bought it. The only down side to this process is that the printing
will probably come off. This doesn't really bother me, but it might
to others. I hope this helps. Keep slammin!!
James McDonald
- St. Charles, MO
May 7, 2008
Just so everyone knows, Cymbals are made of bronze, not brass.
Nice professional cymbals are of "bell bronze", an 80% copper, 20%
tin alloy, while most beginner cymbals (even the Sabian B8 "pro"
series) are 92% copper, 8% tin. Brass is copper and zinc.
The green oxidation is called patina, and it makes the cymbals sound
warmer. Some people like this. Personally, I don't clean my cymbals
unless I plan to sell them. And even then, I am careful with abrasive
cleaners such as brasso, because they will take the logos off very
quickly.
Paiste cymbals should only be cleaned with dish soap and water,
because they come from the factory with a clear protective coating.
FYI, the copper/tin ratios in some Paiste cymbals differ from other
brands, but it's still bronze.
Having said all that, there are some extremely cheap cymbals which I
believe are made of brass...
Ryan Shelledy
- Kansas City, MO, USA
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