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Letter 15053
Boric acid, is it really safe on
humans?
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Ok I have read about using boric acid as a rinse for the
eyes, the feet and a few other things. Is this truly safe? I
am a daycare provider and I have heard people using 1 part
boric acid with 1 part rubbing alcohol.
Boric
acid is used to kill
roaches [link is to product info at Amazon] and
ants so how can this be safe for use on humans? As you see I
do not know much about boric acid. I know this is about
metal finishing but this is where I read the info on Boric
acid so any info would be of help.
Dawn A [last name deleted for privacy due to age of
posting]
- Watertown, WI, USA
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I just did a quick web search on "MSDS boric acid" and got 94 hits
with plenty of info on all the fine details of the health and safety
aspects.
But you're not putting rubbing alcohol in MY eyes, Dawn! I
remember giving a woman a back rub with alcohol once when a few drops
ran down too far. Put a drop on an open cut or a mucous membrane to
just imagine what it would be like in your eyes :-)
I've used boric acid in my eyes, but certainly no rubbing alcohol.
Please ask your pharmacist, because strangers on the internet
sometimes use fictitious names and post deliberately harmful advice.
Good luck.
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Ted Mooney, P.E.
finishing.com
Brick, NJ
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Err...anything that ends with the word "acid" would make me very
wary of putting it in my eyes!
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Marc Green
anodizer - Boise, ID, USA
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(I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV)
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If you read the label of boric acid, it says it is an eye
irritant. Rubbing alcohol, when applied to the eyes in a
high enough dosage, can cause blindness. I've heard of boric
acid being used as a disinfectant on a cut on your skin, but
please consult your physician. Boric acid is toxic.
Anthony H
- Atlanta, GA, USA
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I know from personal history that Boric Acid is totally
safe, and and is in fact medicinally beneficial for the
eyes, WHEN USED IN THE CORRECT DOSAGE, which is 1.9%, or
less, of total volume.
The greatest number of postings on the internet are aimed
at helping consumers handle Boric Acid in its full-strength
state; when properly diluted, it is not an eye-irritant. In
the same way, saline solution (salt) is beneficial to eyes;
in this case the salt is used in a diluted form; but
full-strength salt, if put into the eye, would be very
irritating.
Marynell K
- Arcadia, CA, USA
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I see some eyewash solution for sale on the net which say
they are 2.5% boric acid, so we're in the same ballpark,
Marynell. And Paracelsus long ago told us that the
difference between medicine and poison was the dosage.
But I think Dawn should be using commercial eyewashes
rather than trying to make her own from boric acid for
several reasons: To get the concentration right; to be sure
there aren't undissolved granules of boric acid that could
scratch the cornea; to be sure it's USP grade instead of
some impure material made for industrial use; to be sure the
water is properly preserved and bacteria won't grow in the
eyewash . . . and probably a few other reasons if we thought
about it a while.
I suggest that people look up
"Boric
Acid Eye
Wash [link is to product info at Amazon]" for
their shopping, rather than "boric acid".
 Ted Mooney, P.E. finishing.com Brick, NJ
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My mother would make a boric acid solution to wash our eyes with
anytime we got an eye infection. Always took care of the infection
and we had no problems from it at all. Also we had kittens and if
they got infections in their little eyes we used the solution on them
and it would clear them right up. It doesn't burn at all and feels
just like having clear water put in your eyes, but it works great.
Sharon P
- Rogers, AR, USA
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OK I finally saw the answer I was looking for but no useful
proportions. My mother also used this eye wash for us when ever we
had a "cold in our eyes" ie lids crusted shut. It is a home remedy in
danger of being lost if we can't get the recipe. Since I am not good
at math and still confuse fluid ounces with dry ounces, give me a
recipe that measures ounces of sterile water to teaspoon fraction!
Judi A
- Hapy Camp, California
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I'm all in favor of preserving the knowledge of home remedies,
Judi! In this age of
Frankenfood,
and crops engineered to produce sterile seed, and of
DRM
technology which may soon prevent access to any knowledge not
approved by a handful of corporations, it's very important to
preserve the old knowledge.
This thread implies that the proper proportion is 1.9 to 2.5
percent by weight. But people can't safely formulate from a poorly
recalled highly selective particle of knowledge. If someone wants to
research the subject in old books, that would be great! But then
stick to the old book, not an internet reposting. Internet prowlers
of the sort who write viruses should not be relied upon for what to
put in our eyes. If you just mix crystals of commercial boric acid
with water, with no knowledge of the old ways, you may scratch your
cornea. Our grandparents may have filtered the solution through gauze
or followed other precautions.
 Ted Mooney, P.E. finishing.com Brick, NJ
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I had similar questions about boric acid, especially when
I purchased it and saw the POISON label. However, I checked
with my pharmacist who swears by it as as a
"cure" for vaginal yeast infections. It
also used to treat eye infections when diluted. You will
find it in almost all eye washes, if you check the labels of
those products.
I recall my mother using it when I was young for "medicinal
purposes" but we also used to get rid of roaches and ants.
Go figure. Strange but true.
I purchased it in powder form to use in treating ear
infections in my English 'Springer Spaniel. The formula can
be found at many pet sites that have forums for medical
treatment of different problems. It is as follows:
Blue Power Ear Wash Recipe
INGREDIENTS:
16 Oz.
Isopropyl Alcohol [link is to product info at Amazon]
(or
Witch Hazel [link is to product info at Amazon])
4 Tablespoons
Boric Acid Powder [link is to product info at Amazon]
16 Drops
Gentian Violet [link is to product info at Amazon]
Solution 1%
Mix together in alcohol bottle and shake well.
Please shake this solution every time you use it to mix the
Boric Acid Powder. Either a baby ear syringe or a plastic
squirt bottle work well for putting the solution in the
ear.
DIRECTIONS FOR USE:
Evaluate condition of ears before treating and if the are
inflamed and sore do not attempt to pull hair or clean out
ear at all. Just flush and then wait until inflammation is
gone, which will be about two days. Warm the solution and
shake the bottle each time before using. The dogs will
accept the treatment much better if you warm it up for
them.
Flood the ear with solution (gently squirt bottle).
Massage gently, wipe with 100% cotton pad.
On first treatment: flood the ear twice, wipe with a pad,
and leave alone without massage.
The dog will shake out the excess, which can be wiped with a
tissue. (Note: the Gentian Violet does stain fabrics so
you're best to do this outdoors.)
Treat 2x per day for the first week to two weeks, depending
upon severity of ears.
After the 2nd or 3rd day you can clean out the ear with a
tissue or cotton pad.
Treat 1x per day for the next 1-2 weeks.
Treat 1x per month (or even less frequently, depending on
the dog).
My pharmacist also said that the poison label resulted from
EPA way out of control, probably from California. LOL!
Wayne M
- Safety Harbor, FL
Thanks, Wayne. But your posting does show how easily
internet knowledge can become dangerous. You've told us of a
boric acid and rubbing alcohol recipe as eardrops for pets,
but Dawn had heard of the recipe, didn't quite recall, and
thought rubbing alcohol was appropriate for children's eyes
:-(
 Ted Mooney, P.E. finishing.com Brick, NJ
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Just posted a response but also wanted to include this helpful
link:
http://www.koolpages.com/hokuspokus/boricacid.html
You can also do a Google search for "Boric Acid Yeast Infections" and
you will find a lot of information about safe use of boric acid for
medical purposes.
Wayne M
- Safety Harbor, FL
January 11, 2006
I was searching for a boric acid eye wash recipe for my daughter's
hamster. I came upon this site. Just had to post a message. My mother
used to make up boric acid eye washes every time I had an eye
infection (the kind on the lids & lashes--not
conjunctivitis).
She would dissolve some of the powder in boiled water. I remember
washing out my eye...or using a cloth that had been dipped into the
still-hot water and used as a compress.
WHAT I REALLY RECALL is seeing the undissolved crystals at the bottom
of the pot. The solution w/crystals never hurt my eyes. And, knowing
my mother...she never used any type of formula. She always was a
'toss in what you think is OK' type person. Maybe boric acid used to
be packaged with instructions in the "old days."
Judy A
- Barrington, IL, USA
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March 2, 2006
Enough! Boric acid wash for the eye is 1/4 Tsp to 2 cups
water. Boil water and add powder until dissolved. Store in
an airtight and sterile container. Use an eye cup to rinse
eye. Blink eye into solution so it can get under the
lid.
Tried and true since Since 1952 in my family.
Jill M
- Miami, Florida
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March 16, 2006
I have used boric acid for years to treat eye infections. My
doctor was the person who suggested it to me. I also used it on one
of my kittens who had gummy eyes, it works great! In my opinion the
reason more doctors don't tell us about its benefits is because they
don't get kickbacks from pharmaceutical co. if they don't prescribe
expensive drugs. Knowledge is the best medicine!
Laura T
- Bronston, KY, USA
March 19, 2006
Boric acid eye wash: formula is, one level teaspoon powdered boric
acid mixed into one pint of boiling water.
let cool, then use. either eye cop or sterile pad. the crystals will
work as well, but take longer to fully dissolve. do not buy
commercial grade borax/boric acid.
a weaker solution might be advised for youngsters. store in air tight
container,use within one week for safety.
William B
- Tucson, AZ, USA
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