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How does aluminum foil clean silverware
Q. A friend of mine has this metal plate that she puts in the sink with some water softener salt [affil links] and puts her silver in it. It cleans beautifully and fast. They use to sell it on T.V. Now I can't find it. Does anyone know where I can get this metal plate?
Thanks.
Micheline Fioriti- Montreal, Canada
2001
Silver Cleaning Plates
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eBay
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Amazon
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Dri-Pak Soda Crystals
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Amazon
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You may already have such a magic aluminum plate in your kitchen cupboard that you're using as a cookie sheet or baking pan, Micheline :-)
Please see the entry from Dale Woika on letter no. 4785, "Polishing Silver with Aluminum Foil and Baking Soda".
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2001
2005
I have used several metal cleaning plates. The safest, and one I like best, can be purchased from a company named Special Metal Cleaners, Inc. It is guaranteed never to wear out and is especially safe for precious jewelry as well as antique silver.
Erin N [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]- Fairmont Nebraska
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Ed. note: For more threads about electrolytic cleaning of silver, please see letters: 14623 and 34314.
Q. Dear Helper,
I am in year 10 at St Pius X College Chatswood. At present I have an assessment task for science which requires me to carry out a scientific investigation. I chose to research and report on a method of cleaning tarnished silverware. The method involves submerging silver items into a bowl lined with aluminum and filled with boiling water and a teaspoon of salt (dissolved). (no baking soda) I have found that the salt is only a catalyst, as the silver and aluminium combo works as well. I am writing this e-mail to ask you if you could explain the process that is occurring and provide me with an equation (words and symbols) Thank you for taking the time to read my posting.
Yours sincerely,
I am sorry if this is inconvenient but I really need a reply.
Please help me.
Patrick R [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]- Sydney, NSW, Australia
2004
A. The principle behind this is that most metals corrode with exposure to oxygen. For example, iron rusts with time because of its exposure to moisture in the air, oxygen. You may also have noticed that cars in the northeast rust a lot faster because of the salt used on the roads in winter. The whole process involves electrons moving between the metal and oxygen atoms. It happens spontaneously with most metals (gold being a notable exception). Silver does pretty much the same thing, only that tarnish is the combination of silver with sulfur [affil links] and not oxygen. Silver is special with its more complex reactions, but the principle by which silver tarnishes is the same by which iron rusts.
Aluminum also does the same thing, only it happens more readily than silver...(see where this is going?)
So we need to move the electrons to and from the metals and we need a metal that will take the electrochemical abuse for the silver. The aluminum takes the hit for the silver, and the salt water allows the electrons to move between the silver and aluminum. I would explain more, but this is not a general chemistry article.
This of course raises the question of why airplanes (which have aluminum) don't dissolve in mid flight...
Lisa Robbinson- NSW, Australia
2004
2004
A. Explanation: Silver tarnishes because it undergoes a chemical reaction with sulfur-containing substances in the air. Silver combines with sulfur to form silver sulfide, which is black, and darkens the silver.The silver can be made shiny again by removing the silver sulfide coating from the surface.
Two ways to remove the silver sulfide are to: remove it from the surface, or reverse the chemical reaction and turn silver sulfide back into silver. The first method involves polishes that remove some of the silver during polishing. The above demo uses a chemical reaction (which is sped up by heating the water) to convert the silver sulfide back into silver, without removing any silver.
Aluminum has a lower ionization energy (energy required to remove electrons from an atom of the element) than silver. As a result, aluminum is oxidized (loses electrons and oxidation number increases), and silver is reduced (gains electrons and oxidation number is reduced). Depending on the amount of tarnish, the silver will be bright and the aluminum foil may be brown with tarnish (aluminum oxide), in a short while. The silver tarnish is "transferred" to the aluminum via reactions, which occur instantaneously, as follows:
3Ag2S(s) + 2Al(s)+ 3H2O(l) => 6Ag(s) + Al2O3(s) + 3H2S(aq)
silver sulfide + aluminum + water => silver + aluminum oxide + hydrogen sulfide
(* Note, this reaction can be done without the baking soda, but it takes longer to see results).
The baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) reacts with the (sulfur-smelling) H2S:
3 NaHCO3(aq) + 3 H2S(aq) => 3 NaHS(aq)+3 H2O(l)+ 3 CO2(g)
baking soda + hydrogen sulfide => sodium hydrosulfide + water + carbon dioxide. The CO2 gas can be observed escaping from the most tarnished parts of the silver.
The silver and aluminum must be in contact with each other because a small electric current flows between them during the reaction.This type of reaction, which involves an electric current (because atoms are charged), is called an electrochemical reaction, and is used in batteries to produce electricity.
Tania R. Chase- Topsham, Maine
Q. I can understand Tania from Maine's equation from my schoolboy chemistry, and it's exactly what I wanted to know.
What I don't understand are the letters in parentheses next to each compound.
Why baking soda? Does it convert the gas from hydrogen sulfide to carbon dioxide -- hydrogen sulfide is poisonous.
david haynes- wantage,oxon,uk
May 1, 2012
"The Dose
Makes the poison"
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A. Hi, David.
Tania is apparently indicating whether the compounds are solids, liquids, gases, or ionized in an aqueous solution.
Baking soda merely supplies conductivity. Similar results can be had with washing soda [on eBay or Amazon] , Spic and Span [affil links], or other conductive salts. Although hydrogen sulfide is poisonous, Paracelsus reminded us that everything is poison; it's all in the dose. Eggs release hydrogen sulfide as well.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
May 1, 2012
Q. Tania, I do believe you got the reaction correct. Very nice explanation! However, I don't think the silver needs to be in contact with the aluminum because the saltwater acts as an electrolyte.
Susan Ammons- Bowling Green, Kentucky
January 10, 2009
A. Hi. The silver does need to be in contact with the aluminum. For silver sulfide to be reduced to silver, electrons must flow to it from the aluminum, and there needs to be metal-to-metal contact so the electrons can flow. Ions flow through the liquid, electrons flow through metal.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
January 14, 2009
Should the aluminium foil be shiny side up or dull side up?
SHIV ANAND The aluminum foil should be bright side up.
Robert Franklin Kynor |
March 5, 2009
Q. It appears that foil with salt works, somewhat. Thanks for your help.
What do you suggest I do to bring a sparkle to serving trays? Some are larger than the sinks.
- Burnaby, BC, Canada
A. Hi, Rod. There is no end to the size of containers. Bathtubs or stoppered shower areas can accommodate rather large trays. But I have heard, without verifying, that scrubbing the tray with the aluminum foil wetted with the washing soda [on eBay or Amazon] will work. Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
March 9, 2009
March 6, 2009 Can I use the above method for silver with freshwater pearls jewelry as well? Or, do I have to wrap the pearls separately with aluminium foil first before submerging the piece of jewelry in the solution? Designer - Chicago, Illinois Pearls should only be cleaned with a good quality pearl cleaner
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Q. About the optimum Water, Salt, Soda, and Foil amounts. I would assume that both Water and Foil are bulk for the reaction, meaning that as long you have enough present, the amount doesn't matter (too much doesn't hurt)
Salt being the conductor (when dissolved) is dependent on the amount of water you use. More Water requires more Salt.
Soda deals with the Sulfur from the Silver so I would assume you only need so much, based on the amount of Silver (and the amount/years of tarnish on it)
I see so many "recipes" around that only have Salt to Soda ratios 1:1, and 1:2 is common, but there are others like 1:12 and 1:24~48 these don't relate to how much Water you have at all. A cup, a pan, and a bathtub worth of Water really do need different amounts of Salt.
Long ago when I first heard of this (pre-internet) it was to add Salt until it doesn't dissolve (a few crystals sit on the bottom and persist). This method adds Salt dependent on the amount of Water. I think it was 2 Tbsp of Soda for a Silver set (8 settings), this adds Soda, based on the Tarnish (Silver).
A Setting is commonly 1 knife, 1 fork, 1 spoon, 1 Salad fork, 1 soup spoon, and the set pieces 1/8 Butter Knife, 1/8 Serving fork, 1/8 Serving Spoon, 1/8 Pickle Fork. So 5-1/2 (~6) tableware pieces per-seat gives a ratio of
Water:salt
1:Saturation
Tarnish:Soda
1 piece:1/8 tsp
So here is the question,
Is there a better Water:Salt Tarnish:Soda ratios that make sense?
- Ludington, Michigan USA
August 7, 2010
Q. Can the chemical reaction be sped up by adding additional electrical current (connect battery to the 'soup')?
Mike Lowe- San Diego, California, USA
November 23, 2010
A. Hi. Some people say the reaction is instantaneous in hot to boiling water anyway.
Sure, external electrical power can be used to drive an electrochemical reaction ... it's done in electroplating and other processes ... but it makes a simple reaction more complicated :-(
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. Dear chemistry interested
I was wondering, if there exists a similar technique for cleaning brass or bronze items?
Sincerly yours
Soren, brass artist
- Haderslev, Danmark
November 15, 2014
A. Hi Soren. To my knowledge, brass and bronze don't become sulfided like silver, so the reactions would be different. I believe that copper "bright dips" can be used on brass and bronze. The bright dips are comprised of an acid and an oxidizing agent. Nitric acid is one example, sulfuric acid plus hydrogen peroxide is another. But here we're talking about materials that are far more dangerous and less suitable for home use than aluminum foil and washing soda [on eBay or Amazon] . Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
November 2014
A. For the large serving trays, scrubbing with aluminum foil works for me. For my jewelry, I use an old toothbrush with foil wrapped around the handle end. Use the brush end to soak crevices with solution, then gently scrub with the foiled handle. When possible, I do this with the item IN the solution.
My formula is 1 cup near-boiling water with 1 T each salt, soda, and liquid dish detergent.
I'm no chemist, but when cooking, baking soda can be substituted with baking powder and salt. Both soda and salt may create a reaction with the foil, but they are also mild abrasives, and therefor excellent for cleaning. You can make an inexpensive scouring powder with equal parts coarse salt, baking soda, and borax
[affil links]. (Works wonders on ceramic stove tops.)
For cleaning brass or bronze, try this formula. I use this solution for my bathroom cleaner and it?s simply amazing. Just spray, let sit a few minutes, wipe and rinse. Soap scum, hard water build up, and any kind of "crusties" will start to disappear in just a few days; and it leaves your fixtures bright and shiny. For gunked-up shower heads, just spray and leave. We've also used this for burnt pans, grill grates, car bumpers, and all kinds of outside surfaces.
1 c. white vinegar
[in bulk on
eBay or
Amazon] (dissolves soap scum)
2 T borax (scouring agent)
2 T lemon or lime juice (polishes/makes shiny)
1/4 tsp. bleach
[adv: bleach/sodium hypochlorite in bulk on
eBay or
Amazon]
(cleans/disinfects surfaces)
1 c. water
- LaGrange, Kentucky, USA
Q. I have a large punch bowl. I used the plate. It said put salt on it. I rotated the bowl around the plate. It said I will need to do this several times. 2 questions. Can I immerse the punch bowl or do all the surfaces that need to be cleaned have to touch the plate? Also it said to clean pour vinegar on it and scrub with an abrasive pad. It must be shiny and clean. I scrubbed it, but I'm not sure if it is clean. I see darker spots, patches on the plate. I did not rinse the plate as the instructions just said pour vinegar and scrub. Please advise. Thank you.
Leslie bacon- Altus, Oklahoma USA
December 1, 2017
A. Hi Leslie. You should lay the plate under the punch bowl, with the bowl fully submerged in a large plastic dishpan or a fiberglass or Corian sink (not a conductive metal sink). I can't countermand the instructions that came with the cleaning plate, but I'm sure you're supposed to rinse it. Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
December 2017
Q. Would an aluminium saucepan work as well as aluminium foil to clean silver?
Corinna Hattonretired - Bexhill, East Sussex, UK
December 15, 2017
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