Removing surfactant from waste water
I am looking for a system to eliminate or reduce surfactants from waste water. I utilized in the past hydrogen peroxide, but it is too dangerous to manage and I would rather use something else.
Surfactants come from cleaning tanks and also from plating baths.
Thanks in advance for help.
electroplating shop - Torino, Italy
If you have reduced dragout to the minimum, and you dispose of batch dumps to a different wastestream, and you use biodegradable chemicals, then how about a biological system such as a rotating biological contactor?
Do you have a local pretreatment limit on surfactants or foaming? Do you discharge to a stream or lake?
Standard Methods for the Examination of Water and Wastewater, (American Public Health Association, Washington DC, USA) has two methods for determination of surfactants;
#512B, Anionic Surfactants as MBAS (methylene blue active substances)
#512C, Nonionic Surfactants as CTAS, (cobalt thiocyanate active substances)
Are you testing for surfactants now? Perhaps as part of a comprehensive plan to reduce surfactants or foaming, you can chart the results of one or both of these tests.
Falls Township, Pennsylvania
Tom, I haven't used APHA method #512c with plating waste waters. Does the presence of chelating agents interfere?James Chunn
- Theodore, Alabama
I don't know, I did not mean to imply that I have used the method. In reading through the procedure, we have a sublation step (bubbling through an ethyl acetate layer), anion and cation exchange, and partition of CTAS into methylene chloride before measurement.
The method does not list interferences by chelates, but it would be worth a spiked sample to find out for sure. Not too many plating shops in these parts have much chelates in the process anymore.
Falls Township, Pennsylvania
There are several methods to minimize surfactant levels in waste water and much depends on surfactant levels, ionic types, builders, time restraints, acceptable levels, and how much you are willing to spend.
Anionic surfactants are often amenable to treatment with alum and regulation of pH followed by polymer flocculent. I like the bentonite clay powder blends that can treat a wide variety of cleaning wastewaters. They are quick, simple, and some can break emulsions stabilized by nonionic surfactants as well as remove the low parts per million. If needed you can polish with granular organophilic clay and/or activated charcoal filtration.
Of course, it saves time if you know the surfactant level that you are up against and can test those levels as your wastewater varies from day to day or hour to hour.
- Theodore, Alabama
Organo clay can be used to remove surfactants from water source. Other methods is to use polyelectrolyte flocculants. Cationic quarternaries are efficient but less cost effective.Premachandran
If you are interested in getting the surfactants out and have already segregated the concentrated stuff (like cleaner dumps) why not go all the way and recycle the water. Then it makes sense to run the stream through a carbon bed. Couple that with ion-exchange and you have deionized water for reuse in any rinse in your shop. It's what we do, and it works great.
microwave & cable assemblies
Mesa (what a place-a), Arizona
I realize I may be out of place here but I need all the help I can get!
I am looking for information on the use of organophilic clays to remove colloidal humate from process wastewaters. Colloidal humate concentrations can run as high as 0.5%. Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Help please! I'm stuck!
I need a very quick and easy method to measure the concentration of non-ionic surfactants in a wash tank. The wash tank concerned is charged with 3% non-ionic surfactant but there is a second tank containing only clean water. I need to be able to monitor the concentration in both.
All suggestions warmly received!Andrea Birch
I would like to know everything about chemical treatment for surfactants in wastewater.Can anybody help me?
Thanks for every helps
Chulalongkorn University - Bangkok,Thailand
I was scanning quickly through the different methods proposed to treat anionic or non ionic surfactant in plating (surface finishing) effluents. Which can summarized as follows:
1- H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) which will probably do the job specially at higher PH combined with UV light
2- Organophillic clays
3- Adsorbers such as activated carbons & bentonites
But no one seems aware that Ozone which can be produced from ambient air or oxygen will break down all the organics surfactants, brighteners ,...etc to CO2 & H2O & N2 when applied under the appropriate conditions.
Basically the organics are burnt in an aqueous environment.
Ozone used to be expensive to produce , but now with the advancements in new materials and electronic Ozone can be generated affordably. The capitalisation is high but on the long run it will compete with other solutions.
Ozone will precipitate most of heavy metals so the water can be really recycled without the use of R.O or distillation.Amir Salama P.Eng, M.Sc.
- Granby Qc Canada
Electroflotation is effective in removal of surfactants from plating waste and rinse waters. Technology is based on water electrolysis. The resulted hydrogen and oxygen bubbles foam surfactant which is collected from the top of solution.Gene Chalyt
- E. Rutherford, New Jersey
IN ONE OF OUR THERMAL POWER PLANTS WE ARE GETTING INTAKE WATER FOR CONDENSER WITH LOT OF FOAMING AND OBVIOUSLY WE ARE RELEASING WATER WITH SIMILAR CHARACTERISTICS INTO OUR DISCHARGE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH FOAMING. AS THE QUANTITY OF WATER IS VERY LARGE HOW TO GO FOR TREATMENT? IS THERE ANY METHOD FOR TESTING FOAMING TENDENCY OF WATER/ EFFLUENT OTHER THAN DETERMINING THE SURFACTANTS? DOES THE FOAMING TENDENCY IS INFLUENCE BY ORGANICS (BIO DEGRADABLE AND NON BIO DEGRADABLE). ANY BODY FACING SIMILAR PROBLEM MAY GIVE THEIR EXPERIENCE/ CASE STUDY. THANKSRavi B Vajhala
- NOIDA, UP, INDIA
The anionic surfactants are neutralizing using cationic surfactants and vice versa.
By spectrophotometric via,you can determine the level of surfactant and calculate the quantity required to neutralize the concerned surfactant.
The complex compound resulting of the reaction is biodegradable.
This methods is very fast and cheap.ROBERTO PALOMINO B.
- BOGOTA, COLOMBIA
We currently have a project which involves the disposal of sewage from portable toilets. Slightly off topic, maybe. The toilets use a deodorant which contains a small amount (4 ounces per 5 gals of water) of octylphenol ethoxylate a surfactant typically used for the solubilization of proteins, and a wetting agent.
Our client would like to apply the waste from the toilets to his farm land. I am thus, seeking any information about the biodegradability of this material. If you have some suggestions please contact me.Alex Campbell
- Orangeville, Ontario, Canada
Are there any spectrophotometric tests available to determine the level of cationic surfactants?Jennifer Kaminski
- Atlanta, Georgia
December 11, 2009
We would like to conduct biological degradation of Triton X 202 surfactant. Could you comment on which one is the best? And also any citations available?Christopher Choa
- Manila, Philippines