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Silica removal from water

Q. Dear Readers,

Can anybody tell me about silica removal process? I know two processes, soda lime and activated alumina ... but how much it is feasible, I don't know.

Please let me know how we can remove the silica from the water and what is the outlet limit of silica as per WHO.

Regards,

Brijesh Goel
- Mumbai, Maharashtra, India


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A. Silica can be removed from raw water easily with standard demineralization techniques. Normally silica is present in a weak acidic form. Ion exchange will remove this as long as the anion resin is the strong base type. Silica in deionized water can easily be reduced to 20-50 ppb. Reverse osmosis will also remove silica by 90-98%. Both of these techniques are non-specific for silica, meaning they also remove all other ionic components along with the silica. Normally these methods work well for most well or surface waters where silica is below 15-20 ppm. In some cases for very large flow rates you can remove silica with lime softening techniques. In lime softening the silica is co-precipitated along with magnesium present in the water (or added if necessary). High temperature softening greatly improves silica removal. For high silica waters as seen in Mexico, Hawaii or other sandy areas where levels are 50-60 ppm or higher, the ion exchange and RO options are more troublesome because you may exceed solubility limits for one, and also you are more likely to have significant levels or non-ionic colloidal silica. This will not ion exchange and may foul an RO membrane. Typically this must be removed with ultrafiltration.

Dan Cooper
- Roscoe, Illinois


thumbsup2Nice answer. While I did not ask the question I learned a great deal from your post. Thank you.

John Holroyd
- Elkhorn, Wisconsin


thumbsup2I'll have to agree. There were a couple of gems in that monograph.

John Tuohy
- Ireland


 

Q. I'm doing my research in desalination esp. removal of silica from concentrated brines using lime. As per Dan Cooper, Mg helps in removal of silica; but in my research it proved wrong. Where the SiO2 conc. was 150-200 it proved negative. Can anyone explain why did this happen and is there anything where alkalinity comes into picture?

Bhaskardeleted
desalination - El Paso, Texas


 

A. The optimum pH for silica adsorption onto Mg(OH)2 is around 10-11

Christian Tasser
- Irvine, California


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Q. Hi

I have come across the same problem to remove Silica (approximately 30 mg/L) in bore water to drinking water standard. The main concern is the use of membrane filters after chemical oxidation using Chlorine gas and pH and alkalinity adjustment using Calcite Filters. The water temperature is around 20 to 25 degree. The water has low hardness, less than 10 mg/L, low pH 4 to 5, and relatively high soluble iron, hydrogen sulphide and aluminium.

Can anyone suggest the most feasible and practical solution in my case? As in silica? Aluminium? Does calcite filters help in reducing aluminium concentrations?

By the way, I chose Chlorine gas out of potassium permanganate, ozone, and chlorine dioxide. Is there any comments or special considerations from anyone?

Thanks.

Max

Max Ydeleted
Process Engineer - Australia


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A. Water Treatment of Silica can be quite interesting as many people generalize for text book simplicity perhaps.

Oxidised silicon atoms can and do exist in many different chemical and mineral forms, hence a process that works at one location may not be successful in another.

Silicate and silica particles of otherwise identical mineral forms can have different surface charge, according to their geo-history or immediate pre treatment. This characteristic of silicon is beneficial to the silicon chip! but adds complexity for water treatment design.

Understanding the chemical and or mineralogy involving silicon is a fundamental first step in selecting and designing the most appropriate solid-liquid separation technology for a silicate removal process, for any successful drinking water treatment.

Stewart Shipard
- Perth, Western Australia


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Q. I am experiencing problem with Silica rejection by RO membranes. RO projection software shows silica rejection at level of 99.3 %, but reality is different-close to 90 %. Does anybody have proven numbers(reality) on silica rejection by membranes like CPA3? I do appreciate any information

Jerry Simik
- Guelph, Ontario, Canada


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A. The problem may be the pH that you are operating at, particularly if you are using an acid feed to prevent hardness fouling. At lower than neutral pH values, there may be a significant amount of non-ionic, soluble silica that can pass through the membranes. Operation at a higher pH increases the degree of ionization of the silica and its rejection, but increases the vulnerability of your system to hardness fouling.

Lyle Kirman
consultant - Cleveland, Ohio


August 19, 2009

A. Check silica in reject water. If silica concentration is near or more than saturation of silica, then there are only two ways.
1.run your R.O AT LOWER RECOVERY ACCORDINGLY.
2. USE SILICA REMOVAL SPECIAL TECHNIQUES.

SHAHZAD MALIK
- lahore pakistan


December 27, 2008

Q. Silica value is coming very high in dm plant. in filter water silica value comes 7-10 ppm .
WBA INLET SHOWS 5-7 PPM, SBA OUTLET SHOWS 1-.7 PPM INSTEAD OF <.02 PPM. PROBLEM AROSE JUST A WEEK AGO. MY PLANT WAS RUNNING SMOOTHLY BEFORE THAT.

KINDLY TELL ME HOW TO REMOVE THIS SILICA FROM SBA?

GIRIDHAR CHATURVEDI
STUDENT - INDIA


January 15, 2009

thumbsup2Thanks for the responses. I deal with water used in our boiler and domestic use.The silica levels are very high about 100 mg/l after being passed through a softening plant. Please keep on posting on this topic.

Eddah bonareri
- Kenya, Nairobi


January 15, 2009

A. Because of the range of particle size, silica removal has no "one size fits all" solution. Ultrafiltration (UF) offers complete removal down to .015 microns. Particles smaller than .015 microns can become lodged inside the membrane pores, occluding them and causing an earlier than expected loss of production.

Neil Oliver
- Elburn, Illinois


April 23, 2009

Q. Hi,
I'm designing a plant to bottle further treated municipal water but I'm not sure with the silica levels (10 mg/L) whether they are too high or ok. What are the WHO limits? what are the effects of having high levels of silica in bottled water?

Phylis Chauke
- Bulawayo, Zimbabwe


May 13, 2009

Q. Hi

Does silica contribute to water conductivity. Some sites say it does and some say it doesn't!
Kind Regards

Naeema Essop
- Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng, South Africa


October 6, 2009

Q. Dear Brijesh, I like your question, but let me ask something: if we have DI water but silica is 20 ppm, we want it 0.1 ppm, will RO work for it?

Regards

Abdul khurram
water care - Lahore Pakistan


December 14, 2009

A. Dear All...for all of you who work in Industries. There are mainly 2 forms of Silica the first one is Reactive Silica and the second one is Colloidal Silica.
Reactive silica is what it is called when silica and bisilicate are in equilibrium with each other.
Colloidal silica is basically a polymer with virtually no charge so Ion Exchange methods cannot remove the same.
The only way of removing these is by Ultrafiltration or Reverse Osmosis which can reduce both of the above >98%. The initial investment will be high but it will help those dealing in HP Boilers. Any questions please feel free to ask me about this.

Sunderam Nagar
- India


January 5, 2010

Q. I have a DI system which forks into different environmental chambers used for testing Glass PV Panels. I have noticed a lot of Silica build up on the samples in the chambers lately. How can I go about removing the Silica?

Can I install a polisher to remove excess Silica at the user (chamber) end of the system?

Tyler Barbaree
quality technician - tucson, Arizona


September 27, 2010

Q. Our spring water contains 68 ppm of Silica. Due to heavy rains the water tables are high and we encountered algae contamination. We add Chlorine Dioxide at the source killing most of yeast & moulds. total counts are low. One big problem is, we notice that the Chlorine Dioxide (0.4ppm) raises the pH to 7.6 and also reacts with silica forming a white precipitate (floc like) and I think this causes inefficiency in killing the algaes. I also use Ozone at bottling time. Still getting large growths of algae after about 20 days. Can anybody help?
A. Cid

albert cid
water provider - QLD, Australia

December 23, 2010

A. We developed a product to remove silica from geothermal brine. In Arizona this presents a problem of course; the cycling up of silica often limits the capacity to produce power. The product works by using a microbe that accepts silica through the cell wall, giving enough surface area and charge to physically remove the silica. Info was published in one of the Power Generation publications.

Scott Frazier
- Ozark, Missouri USA

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Ed. note: Please get back to us with what magazine and what issue when you remember. Thanks.



August 31, 2012

Q. I would like to know if there is a method of removing silica from boiler blowdown having a concentration of 150-200 ppm to below 5 ppm?

Scott, you mentioned microbes that remove silica. Can you post some technical information about this technology so that readers can view it.

Amin Manji
Consulting Company - Van, BC, Canada


December 9, 2011

A. Try electrocoagulation. We use it to remove a whole variety of suspended solids, emulsified oils, bugs, etc. Has been quite effective with silica. More cost effective than chemical flocculation. Capex is much higher than chemicals, but you make it up in opex.

Chuck Hanebuth
- Houston, Texas, USA


December 21, 2011

Q. I have a well, used for our house, that has high level's of silica (103 mg/L). What are my best AND least costly options? RO is an option but to centrally treat the water will cost over $15,000.

Any other good ideas for dealing with this?

Jeff O
- St. Helena, California, USA


December 28, 2011

Q. I am a student of one of the universities in A.P. I am trying to learn more information on removal of silicon from water.

B.Vijayalakshmi
- Andra Pradesh, India


Hi Vijayalakshmi,

So that we can keep moving forward, and not go in circles, please ask for any desired clarifications about the many technologies already discussed, or post a more specific question. Thanks!

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey

February 20, 2012

Q. What is the most efficient process to remove 180 ppm of silica (reactive or colloidal) to level of 5 ppm - is this by IE/RO/SBA or by EDI? Request your feedback..
Thank you. I appreciate it.

Ved

coimbatore vedavyasan
- Dubai, UAE


September 10, 2012

Q. Dear all

Kindly inform us to remove silica in high alkalinity water. Silica in bore well is 110 ppm, T. Alkalinity is 415 ppm, Total hardness is 150 ppm. We are consuming high ppm of lime and dolomite in the range of 950 ppm each to reduce the level up to 50 - 60 ppm. We are using FeCl3 as coagulant of 25 ppm and Poly electrolyte of 1 ppm.

We want to decrease the chemical consumption. PAC (Poly aluminium chloride) is not approved. Please reply at the earliest.

ARUNACHALAM NARAYANAN
- CHENNAI, TAMIL NADU & INDIA


October 10, 2012

Q. Hi folks,
I am a crude stabilization unit process engineer.
We use condensate as make-up water to electrical desalting vessel.
In order to get the salts out of the crude oil, it first has to be mixed with demineralized water (condensate in our case).
The condensate is pure water having almost zero conductivity. Lately we had a little silica (3.2 mg/L) show up in that make up stream. The reason for that is our carbon beds used for condensate filtering. So right now we are not able to eliminate the cause for such silica contamination but we need to figure out how bad can be the effect of silica-containing condensate to the desalting process as well as to downstream equipment: oil heat exchangers and reboilers.
I know that colloidal silica may strengthen oil-in-water emulsion, but what about dissolved silica?
Anybody know whether silica stays in water phase or it can be partially transferred to the oil phase during the mixing in desalter vessel? Oil coming out of desalter is almost free of water; however I would expect scaling formation in heaters/reboilers if there is still some retained in "dry" oil.
Thanks
Rustam

Rustam Kudaibergenov
oil - Tengiz, Kazakhstan


February 18, 2013

Q. Dear all... we need information on what technology to reduce silica content (silica content 490 ppm , TDS 900 mg/l ), because we need silica content not more than 10 ppm and electrical conductivity < 10 us/cm. This water is for for industrial battery charging.

Thanks for many information.

Subur W
engineering - Indonesia



July 4, 2014

Q. Silica present in water, tests say Silica (mg/L) 5.72

Is it okay OR does it needs to be treated?
If treatment required, please suggest treatment. Thanks.

Musa Shafi
- Lahore, Pakistan


July 2014

A. Hi Musa. I don't quickly see any WHO limits for silica, but how much more study would have to be done depends on your situation. If you are responsible for a public water supply, you'll need to learn the standards inside out.

Folks: Please detail your situation, and do your best to frame your questions in terms of the several very insightful answers already offered. When questions are presented as requests for clarification of suggestions already offered, they usually elicit enthusiastic response; but when earlier answers are blown off, and questions are posed as "start over just for me because I can't be bothered", the thread usually dies).

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey


July 9, 2014

A. If this is tap water, then 5 mg/L of silica is a relatively low number. Values of 25-50 mg/L are not uncommon.

However, if this is DI water, then further treatment is needed for most uses.

Lyle Kirman
- Cleveland, Ohio USA




Lab says 10 ppm of silica in DM water -- are they wrong?

August 15, 2014 -- this entry appended to this thread by editor in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread

Q. Dear sir,
I am generating dm water of pH 6.4, conductivity 1.2 µs/cm.
Our lab in-charge says 10 ppm silica in DM water ... is that a right or wrong report, please tell me.
If silica in dm water, why?
All parameter is offline.

patel jayeshkumar
- gujarat, India


August 2014

A. Hi Jayeshkumar. We appended your inquiry to a long and detailed thread which offers some great explanation of silica in DM water. Still, if you don't trust your lab analysis, you'll have to have some other person or service re-do it -- you can't possibly rely on an internet vote to override an actual chemical analysis :-)

Best of luck.

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey



August 28, 2014

Q. Sir,
I am facing a problem in SBA supply by THERMAX PLANT. SiO2 of SBA is continuously increasing after regeneration system taken in line. What is the reason of SiO2 increasing? Maybe SBA EXHAUST but a doubt due to not possible that fresh SBA taken in. Chances of increasing SiO2 in SBA EXHAUST of SAC? Please give technical process if it's reason of SAC EXHAUST.

Thanks,

Dilip Singh Gohil
- Bharuch ,Gujarat India


September 1, 2014

A. It is very possible that you have 10 mg/L of silica in your DI water. Silica is the first thing to leak off of an anion exchange resin and at pH values < 7 it is not ionized so it adds almost nothing to conductivity.

If you want to have less silica in your DI water, there are several possible ways to accomplish this. You could add a tank of mixed bed resin after your DI system, or you will need to regenerate the anion resin before the water reaches a conductivity set point. Regenerating the anion resin based upon a volume throughput rather than conductivity can accomplish this if your feed water analysis does not vary very much.

Lyle Kirman
consultant - Cleveland, Ohio


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