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Letter 565
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It is neat stuff--But--it is unbelievably slow to dissolve. Unless
you have the option of predissolving it in acid rinsewaters and
feeding that into your waste treatment system, it will either take
what seems to be forever or you will overdose it and the pH will rise
when you do not want it to. The price came down and NaOH went up so
it is now affordable. It does help in the filter press.
As far as going to a non secure landfill, I think that you have to
delist which is a tortuous process that might be going away. Buy a
big insurance policy, because in 5 years or so, you will be blamed
for the water coming out of the dump even if you encapsulated it in
epoxy and have contributed nothing to the problem. You are visible
and a lot of do gooders have nothing better to do. Besides, the
lawyers file a class action suit and get paid.
James Watts
- Navarre, Florida
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Mag Oxide Trials
Our trials continue after a few technical hiccups and we are co-dosing with caustic (two separate pumps) because of the lack of grunt in the MgO. We believe that we are getting enough MgO in the sludge to pass leachate tests and are currently awaiting our first test results.
Regards,
Chris
Chris Burgess
plating shop - Brisbane, Australia
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Chris and Ted:
Here is some first-hand experience with Mg(OH)2. After months of trial-and-error and with some help from a supplier, we have a magnesium hydroxide/sodium hydroxide cycle that breaks up chelates from an alkaline cleaner and lets us consistently batch treat effluent containing up to 30% of the Cold Action Cleaner we once discussed in these pages:
reduce pH to <2 with sulfuric acid;
Add about 1 lb/100 gal of magnesium hydroxide (we buy it dry and prepare a slurry right before use). Allow to mix for 15-30 min. This brings the pH up to >5.0.
Add NaOH to raise pH to >11.0. Mix for 30 min.
Add flocculent;
Let precipitate. It usually takes anywhere from 1 to 6 H in our 500 gal treatment tank.
Transfer supernatant into pH reduction tank, lower pH and discharge. This cycle reduces the concentration of Ni(2+) down to <1.5 ppm.
Filter sludge in filter-press.
We like this cycle for its simplicity, low expenses and high tolerance to cleaners, nickel sludge dumps from anode bags and just about anything - no upsets so far, in over 6 months of using it.
Hope others will find this useful, too.

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Our sludge passed the leachate test and we are now progressing with the local authorities.
Will keep you posted.
Chris
Chris Burgess
plating shop - Brisbane, Australia
Thanks, Berl. Thanks, Chris.
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Ted Mooney finishing.com Brick, New Jersey |
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I would like to preface my comments by saying that I am not a research person but work on the economic development side of the Manitoba government. I was searching for information on magnesium production facilities and came across your discussion. The other side of my job deals in waste management. Manitoba has a group of private sector people who are looking at ways to take the smell out of hog manure. We are interested in any process however, cost effectiveness is a main issue. So, if I can join the discussion, please educate me on some systems that are currently in use or under development. We are interested in setting up demonstration sites for those under development. Many thanks
Craig MacDonald
Economic Development Board - Manitoba, Canada
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--- Dear Craig: Our experience is in metal finishing, so we can't help much on the hog issue. But regarding the magnesium: plating shops usually need to (among other things) raise the pH of their effluent, both to meet discharge standards and to precipitate out the dissolved metals. This is most often done with sodium hydroxide, but sodium hydroxide is a dangerous chemical and is so rapid acting that it entraps a lot of water in the precipitation process. This is why platers are interested in magnesium hydroxide slurry, which is both safe and slower acting. Like anything else, it's not perfect: being a slurry, it clogs up the piping very easily; being only mildly alkaline, it is incapable of precipitating certain metals like nickel; being slow acting in a fast-moving world, there is often not sufficient time for it to react.
--- I graduated from the Ag school in New Jersey, and worked in the Plant Tissue and Soils Analysis Lab for several years. Even when it is frozen solid, poultry manure has some eye opening olfactory properties. So hog manure must be a real treat. However, I know the answer. The most cost effective ways to eliminate complaints about hog manure are:
Compared to a Misplates old stripping room, hog manure ain't bad. Tom Pullizzi
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