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Removing gray scale on hot-rolled steel
[India]
October 15, 2009
I am an entrepreneur in the field of Surface coating of Steel. My
plant is located in India. Of late I am getting large sheet-metal
parts having sheet thickness of less than 1 mm for coating.
Shot-blasting to removes gray oxide scales from surface is ruled out
as it distorts the component. I am forced to do HCl acid pickling to
remove the scales. But using HCl has seriously corroded the plant
structures and equipment around. Besides, work-atmosphere is
hazardous.
Is there any other cheap method to get rid of the gray scales? What
are the methods used by large manufacturing companies to remove
mill-scale?
Mahesh Behra
Technocrat and entrepreneur, coating plant - Pune, India

October 19, 2009
There are alkaline rust removers and electrolytic alkaline rust
removers. You need to do some testing before you commit to anything
as some scale requires a permanganate prep step which I find to be
less than wonderful to use and to maintain.
You could try a lower strength sulfuric acid and you could try it
electrolytically. There are blends of acids that are proprietary
(more expensive) that work.
Finally, the blast will work if you lower the pressure and use one of
the carbide grits. You need to do each side equally which will nearly
eliminate the warping.
James Watts
- FL
October 20, 2009
Mahesh, 10-15 percent sulfuric acid at any temperature over about
55 degrees C works fine. Sulfuric acid does not release free acid
into the air like hydrochloric does. It will actually work at any
temperature down to ambient, but the lower the temperature, the
slower the cleaning. We find that 55-60 degrees C is fine - at that
temperature, it removes mill scale from hot-rolled structural
sections in around 15 minutes which suits the operation of the
shop.
Whichever acid you use, you must add an inhibitor to it, which allows
the acid to attack the scale but severely retards attack on the base
metal itself.
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Bill Reynolds
consultant metallurgist
Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
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October 22, 2009
Ya Bill, sulfuric acid is a good option compared to HCl, but at
elevated temperature it also creates fumes in the atmosphere.
Besides, is it not more harmful to the Human skin?
Use of Inhibitors I guess will work well.
I learned that some branded companies sell pickling acid in a
particular combination of both Sulfuric acid and HCl. Is it true?
Mahesh Behra
Surface coating - Pune, India
October 23, 2009
Sir:
You need a copy of my article on the Selection and Use of Pickling
Acid Inhibitors which is published in the journal METAL FINISHING.
The proper inhibitor reduces acid fumes by 90% to 99%. Obviously you
need to know the proper concentration and temperature to use either
acid (HCl or H2SO4). I have experimented with mixtures of HCl and
H2SO4 and did not like the results. It is true that HCl fumes fill up
a plant from the ground up, whereas H2SO4 properly inhibited the
fumes are local around the acid tank and not nearly so corrosive to
the entire building and equipment.
Regards,
November 1, 2009
Use of Sulfuric acid is working fine and better than HCl. What
should be the suitable Effluent treatment for used Sulfuric acid in
this case?
Mahesh Behra
Surfactant Solutions - Pune, India
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