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Alodine? Chromating Alum tubes.
January 23, 2009
Not being that familiar with all of this, I am looking for some
answers. We have some alum. tubing that is anodized. We machine the
ends (face & thread) and then assemble the complete product. We
are finding that while in the field these parts are beginning to
deteriorate where the anodizing was cut. I am looking for an in house
way to coat these. I can have them sent out to our platers to be
anodized or chromate dipped but that adds to our lead time. I have
tried the alodine 1132 pen and that does not work as well as I would
like. I see that we can dip these ourselves but am worried about
disposing of the waste and the rinse water. Do they have to be rinsed
at all or can they just be left to dry. Is there a process to coat
these that will give me a good finish for a harsh enviroment, that
will not produce waste that needs to disposed of by a service?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan Cibulskis
product manufacturer - Aurora, IL, U.S.A.

January 26, 2009
There is no good way to do a "cheap" good job.
Ideally, You would do all of the machine work, then alodine or
irridite the whole tube, mask the threads and anodize the whole unit.
The prep steps for the anodize will remove the unmasked chromate
conversion coating. The masking/demasking is the expensive
step.
There is no good way to "hold" the part for the mechanical steps
after anodize. It may look OK, but it damages the anodize. Since
those steps should be done with cutting fluid, now you have a problem
of getting the part clean enough to chromate. Also, a proper chromate
will use prep steps that will damage the anodize. You will have a
problem with most companies certifying the product if you do not do
the complete process. Also, the chromate will be inferior if you do
not.
James Watts
- FL
January 28, 2009
Dan,
You mentioned the Alodine 1132 pen. Was the touchup area exposed to
air for any length of time prior to your touchup attempt? If so,
clean the surface to be chromated with a scotchbrite pad to remove
oxidation, then touchup with the 1132 pen. The chromate coating
should form a bit quicker than direct application to the
unclean/oxidized surface.
Terry Lycans
Aerospace - Dayton, OH, USA
February 3, 2009
Actually it is common to chromate areas that are machined after
anodizing. I have seen several examples of this. Also there is such a
thing as a no-rinse chromate. Talk to the chromate suppliers about
the suitability of their product.
Leo Herringon
- Grand Rapids, MI, USA
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