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Platinum plating on Nickel base
superalloys [UK]
February 13, 2007
I am having problems plating out platinum on nickel based alloys
(nimonic 75 and CMSX4). I am using the 5Q salt, maintaining a
temperature of 92 deg C, pH 10.5 and CD ranging from 2.4 - 0.6 A/dm2.
I am cleaning the alloys by initially grit blasting with chilled iron
grit followed by warm acetone (30 deg c) in an ultrasonic bath for 30
mins. I am using a pure platinum gauze for an anode.
I get some very dull matt deposits and sometimes yellow deposits
(only once a shiny deposit - however there was a yellow deposit on
anode).
Any suggestions appreciated!
Mark Craig
Student - Cranfield, UK
February 15, 2007
If I was plating a high nickel alloy with platinum, I surely would
not blast it with iron as you will leave traces of iron in the
surface.
High nickel alloy requires some aggressive preparation. too much to
put here. Check out your local library or make a trip to a good
college library for a book on plating. Try to find a copy of the
metal finishing guidebook, or a copy
of the electroplating engineering
handbook or other good text.
You will need to nickel strike it with a Wood's Nickel strike ( I
prefer the formulation with a high HCl content and a low nickel metal
content. It is slower , but it sticks well).
You do not provide data on the rest of your plating solution. No one
can help you on that until you do.
James Watts
- FL
February 16, 2007
Thanks.... I am using the Platinum 5Q plating solution as sold by
Johnson Matthey at 92oc and a pH of 10.5.
I would prefere to plate without the use of Ni strikes as I would
like to ultimately make various intermetallic coatings and compare
these against coatings produced by other techniques.
The grit blast/ Acetone [link is to product info at Rockler]
route has been used previously in a number of papers I have read - if
you could suggest an alternative method I would appreciate it.
Many thanks
Mark Craig
PhD Student
Cranfield University
Mark Craig
- Cranfield, UK
February 24, 2007
Mark
Grit blasting will change the surface morphology and the risk of iron
contamination has been stated.
Acetone cleaning is typical of academic papers but is never used by
platers. It is a a poor degreaser in that it evaporates rapidly and
puts the grease back on the surface. Also it is highly flammable -
don't heat it - I lost a perfectly good set of eyebrows when I was
young!
Solvent degrease (if you must) as a first step. A good aqueous
alkaline degreaser comes next. Rinse thoroughly and ensure that the
water film covers the surface ie, there is no organic contamination
left on the surface. This is called the water break test.
The next problem is to remove any surface oxides and produce an
active surface. I do not have a specific pre-treatment for your alloy
but, if you cannot nickel strike, I suspect that a fluoride etch will
be needed.
Platinum plating is not easy and Q salt can degrade. Take your
problem back to the supplier. If JM cannot help, try Metalor.
Geoff Smith
- England
First of two simultaneous responses -- February 27, 2007
Hi Mark,
Why don't you go to the Horse's Mouth and approach the (now) Hereford
Company of Special Metals Wiggin who, I like to think, made the first
Nimonics in the world.
Surely their lab people or chief metallurgist could help you out.
OK?
The other suggestions were made by very knowledgeable people ...
although I feel sorry for the guy who lost his eyebrows !

Freeman Newton
- White Rock, B.C. Canada
Second of two simultaneous responses -- February 27, 2007
I would use aluminum oxide for a grit blast. It will give more
"teeth" for the plating to adhere to. You can give it a short soak in
a caustic cleaner and it will dissolve any of the grit that might be
stuck in the surface. Control your grit size and air pressure to give
the surface roughness that you desire. I would try 220 first and
change from there. Make sure that your air is oil free!!
James Watts
- FL
March 1, 2007
As an alternative to Woods strike and after a proper cleaning
cycle you can try to activate the surfaces in forward polarity in
diluted Hydrochloric acid in DI water. This solution must be very
VERY clean and free of dissolved metal salts preferably reagent grade
and the anodes made of graphite, again very clean and free of metal
inclusions. Obviously this is not an industrial approach as chlorine
gas evolves abundantly which will be irritant and must be ventilated.
Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico


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