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What are the effects of chlorides and
fluorides on 316 Stainless Steel? [New York]
November 12, 2006
Greetings,
My name is Alex Granina and I am a nuclear valve sales engineer
working for a flow control division of a corporation.
My manager gave a tough assignment that I am struggling to find an
answer for. Could you be so kind as to help me with the following
questions?
-Is there a temperature of exposure for which corrosion occurs, and
in what type of fluid? Steam, oil, gas, water etc.?
-What must the concentration of chlorides or fluorides or Halogens be
for corrosion to occur, and how long does this process take?
-What is the minimum area of contact necessary for a reaction to
occur?
-How concentrated does the mixture of fluoride and chloride have to
be in order to leach out and cause damage?
Ms. Alex Granina
- Farmingdale, NY
First of three simultaneous responses -- November 15, 2006
In a forum like this it is impossible to teach about general
themes, you need to pose a specific situation. All of your questions
are too broad or vague to receive a precise answer. In all case the
answer would be broad or vague also. The vast science of corrosion
study was developed for that purpose. Maybe your manager wants you to
take a minor in corrosion theory and engineering.
Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico
Second of three simultaneous responses -- November 15, 2006
Dear Alex,
Why don't you refer to books and handbooks in corrosion ,you may find
valuable information there.
Good luck

Cair Shishani
aircraft maintenance - Abu Dhabi, UAE
Third of three simultaneous responses -- November 15, 2006
I can only relate what I know about the specific corrosion of type
304 stainless steel used for valve/pipe fittings in the nuclear PWR
industry.
The primary concern in this case is for an insidious form of
corrosion called Chloride Stress Corrosion Cracking, which gives
little indication of crack initiation in very low Halide levels, and
in the presence of tensile stress.
We use permissible levels of surface contamination on outer surfaces
for combined F and Cl of 100 micrograms per 0.1 m2 maximum.
The effect is unknown below 50 degrees C.
Contact area is uncertain, but crevices are commonly found to
initiate pitting and crevice corrosion, which in turn can provide
sites for Cl SCC, so contact area would seem to be unimportant.
As the main preventative measure, mechanical barriers to the ingress
of water are paramount.
Martin Rich
Ship Repair - Plymouth, UK
First of two simultaneous responses -- November 16, 2006
316 is an austenitic stainless steel (SS). There are 5 SS families
– austenitic, ferritic, martensitic, precipitation-hardening and
duplex. Some further categories: super duplex and super austenitic.
They vary in composition and microstructure and thus in response to
corrosives. Corrosion resistance is also affected by cold working,
heat treatment, welding, and surface treatments. About the only
general statement re halogens and halides is that all stainlesses are
~resistant under anhydrous conditions – the protective chloride or
fluoride film forms on the metal, and is usually stable up to the
melting point of the film. However, the presence of moisture
dissolves the film, creating an acidic salt solution. Chlorides are
bad, fluorides worse. Concentration, temperature, dissolved oxygen
and other solutes, pH, all matter. Corrosion or pickling inhibitors
may be used. Short exposure times may be used for cleaning whereas
longer times may cause etching, intergranular corrosion, pitting, or
other bad stuff.
Google or check books for a particular SS in a specific
application.
Some Internet sources:
SS and super alloy producers (AK Steel, Allegheny Ludlum, Avesta
Welding, Carpenter Technology, Haynes Intl., Nirosta, Outokumpu
Stainless, Sandvik, Special Metals, Stellite, etc.) all have websites
with lots of information.
Professional and trade associations:
Australian Stainless Steel Development Association
http://www.assda.asn.au See 'Corrosion Resistance in Marine
Environments' for a plot of pitting corrosion ranges of several
common SS grades as a function of chloride concentration and
temperature.
British Stainless Steel Association http://www.bssa.org.uk
'Corrosion of Stainless Steels in Supply (Drinking) and Waste
(Sewage) Water Systems' gives some limits for 304 & 316 SS for
use with choride- and chlorine-containing water
European Stainless Development Association
http://www.euro-inox.org
Indian Stainless Steel Development Association
http://www.stainlessindia.org/
International Stainless Steel http://www.worldstainless.org/
NACE International [formerly Nat'l. Assoc. Corrosion Engineers]
http://www.nace.org/nace/index.asp
Nickel Institute www.nickelinstitute.org has numerous free
publications, including 'Alloys to resist chlorine, hydrogen chloride
and hydrochloric acid' and 'CORROSION RESISTANCE OF NICKEL-CONTAINING
ALLOYS IN HYDROFLUORIC ACID, HYDROGEN FLUORIDE AND FLUORINE.'
Specialty Steel Industry of North America http://www.ssina.com/
Books (note: boss may expect
learning about more than 316 SS):
Corrosion
of Stainless Steels [Ed. note: hover over links to view at
Amazon], 2nd Edn. by A. John Sedriks, ISBN: 0471007927
(1996)
Corrosion
Resistance of Stainless Steels by C. P. Dillon, ISBN: 0824796292
(1995)
Corrosion
of Austenitic Stainless Steels: Mechanism, Mitigation, and
Monitoring, H. S. Khatak & Baldev Raj (Editors) ISBN:
0871707527 (2002).
Handbook
of Corrosion Engineering by Pierre R. Roberge ISBN: 0070765162
(2000)
Corrosion,
3rd Edn., 3184 pages in 2 vols. by L. L. Shreir et al. (editors),
ISBN: 0750610778 (1994)
Uhlig's
Corrosion Handbook by R. Winston Revie (Editor) ISBN: 0471157775
(2000).
ASM
Handbook Vol. 13 Corrosion (1987).
If you have funding, get the new, expanded version, in 3 vols.:
Volume
13A: Corrosion: Fundamentals, Testing, and Protection
(2003)
Volume
13B: Corrosion: Materials (2005)
Volume
13C: Corrosion: Environments and Industries (2006).
ASM Int. also has correspondence courses, e.g.,
Corrosion (15-Lesson Series)
Stainless Steels (15-Lesson Series)
NACE has an extensive education program, but mostly classroom
courses.
There are many more sources and books; the above should provide a
good start.
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Ken Vlach
- Goleta, California
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Second of two simultaneous responses -- November 16, 2006
You ask for an amount of information that could fill a Master's
Thesis in Material Science. You might want to start your project with
the aquisition of one of the fine Books on this very subject
available on this very website:
http://www.finishing.com/Books/corrosionss.html
By the way, 316 is formulated with Molybdenum which is added
SPECIFICALLY to interrupt the pitting corrosion mechanism which
Chloride ion is famous for.

Dave Kinghorn
Chemical Engineer - Walnut, CA
December 2, 2006
We have some over the road tankers that have composite barrels
mounted on a saddle or cradle type steel chassis. The material is 304
SS. After about 1 year over operation in HCL the frames around the
welded area started cracking with some of the cracks extending into
the parent metal away from but near the welds. There has been quite a
bit of HCL spilled over the 304 frames.
There are 3 tankers with this problem and all in the same operation.
How likely is it that the cracking is caused by excessive spilling of
HCL on the frames? Typically the cracks are near heat effected areas
and 1-2" long.
Thank you for your responses or ideas.
George Felix
- Houston, Texas, USA
December 6, 2006
Re HCl damage to 304 SS tank truck structure: This sounds like SCC
of the HAZ. Possibly, the filler metal was 308 or 316 (or a low
carbon version) so more resistant than the base metal. One of the
Hastelloys (C-276, B-2, C-22) would be much better in this
application. Due to the serious hazard potential and reworking costs,
have the problem examined by a local metallurgical/corrosion
engineer. Should be plenty in the Houston area -- headquarters of
NACE International (www.nace.org).
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Ken Vlach
- Goleta, California
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