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Letter 30046
Surface coatings for carbon fiber
gun barrels
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I am the holder of patents relative to carbon fiber gun
barrel construction and looking for coating options for
consideration. The barrels have a steel liner as the bearing
surface and then are built up to finish diameter with carbon
fiber mat material as specified. I would like to know what
coating options exists for both cosmetic and practical
applications.
Thank you.
David S
firearms consultant - Vancouver, Washington
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From my experiences with carbon fibre it doesn't need a
coating, the bonding resin gives it good mechanical
qualities. For appearance maybe try an epoxide with pigment
added to change the color. A final layer of woven carbon to
give it the hologram/cats eye effect (I cant for the life of
me spell the technical term for that effect), dyed kelvar
for a final coating? Lately I've been looking into an
abrasion resistant coating for a project I'm working on..the
search has led me to epoxy-siloxane resins, and crosslinked
polysilicate resin. used for high gloss and scratch
resistant coatings. I've never worked it so I don't know
much about it, have some on the way and will know more soon.
I don't' know exactly what you are looking for so I'm
just throwing ideas out there. We have a carbon fibre barrel
on our little .22 used for plinking, I love it.
Jason Aube
- Flint, Michigan
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January 26, 2008
Two-part sports car or speed boat or custom motorcycle varnish
exists, and one company even offers the clear two-part stuff in a
special "spray paint" can in which you have to push a bottom plunger
to mix two ingredients, then you get about six hours until the
contents solidify in the can. The company is "Alsa Corp" which also
sells all manner of thin decorative laminates for motorcycles and
show cars (too thin to be durable, indent-resistant, or
corner-peeling resistant etc.).
One other option that I have little experience with, but which should
also be heat resistant is "Water Glass" which upon evaporation gives
a true glass layer. It would not likely wet out into a smooth coating
on plastic carbon fiber, but surface treatments exist (such as made
for making glue stick to hydrocarbon plastics or nylon). These
materials are available from McMaster-Carr. They also sell clear
Teflon
heat shrink tubing .
Future
Acrylic floor wax is actually pretty good stuff, and goes on so
thin that you needn't worry much about how thick it goes on. It is
removable with ammonia. It's used as an old model airplane canopy
anti-scratch or scuff-coverup trick. Again, if it won't wet the
surface, add some soap or pre-treat the surface with "Nylon" or
"Polypropylene" adhesion promoter liquids first. They are surface
oxidants that quickly evaporate, leaving no residue.
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A good car wax is Buffalo Milke, which comes in a
spray-on/wipe-off bottle. One of those late night TV
infomercial products, but it really works well to retain
gloss and resist finger prints after a very easy
(non-buffing) application and cotton rag wipe or two.
A dip-coating in very thin yet eventually very hard silicone
rubber indeed sounds like a good idea, after plugging up the
ends of the barrel. Silicone can handle very high
temperature compared to other rubbers. It's also good stuff
since although when wet it sticks to most anything except
good Teflon or wet cardboard, it then, when crosslinked into
a hard solid "sheds" both grimey dirt and hydrocarbon-based
oils as well as water, and resists scratching (since it
"gives" momentarily then pops back flat).
Heat build-up compared to a fully metal gun barrel is an
interesting topic to ponder, since less heat would get
transferred to a thin metal tube surrounded by low heat
conductive composite graphite/resin in the first place
compared to the huge heat conductivity of solid steal.
A coating on top of what you already have though, is one
more thing to go wrong by yellowing, becoming brittle,
de-laminating, etc.
Mike Matterson
- New York, New York
February 11, 2008
David
People buy carbon fibre because they like the "high tech"
look.
They also buy because it is very light for its strength. I
suggest that you research the Winchester 59 shotgun which
had a fibreglass wrapped barrel. It was very light and the
recoil was horrendous.
There is also the question of the pressure wave following
the shot which expands the barrel. I would want to see a lot
of testing for possible de-lamination before I was tempted
to buy anything bigger than .22.
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Geoff Smith
Hampshire, England
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