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Letter 30046
Surface coatings for carbon fiber
gun barrels [Washington]
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I am the holder of patents relative to carbon fiber gun
barrel construction and looking for coating options for
consideration. The barrels have a steel liner as the bearing
surface and then are built up to finish diameter with carbon
fiber mat material as specified. I would like to know what
coating options exists for both cosmetic and practical
applications.
Thank you.
David S [name deleted for privacy due to
age of posting]
firearms consultant - Vancouver, Washington, USA
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From my experiences with carbon fibre it doesnt need a
coating, the bonding resin gives it good mechanical
qualities. For appearance maybe try an epoxide with pigment
added to change the color. A final layer of woven carbon to
give it the hologram/cats eye effect (I cant for the life of
me spell the technical term for that effect), dyed kelvar
for a final coating? Lately I've been looking into an
abrasion resistant coating for a project I'm working on..the
search has led me to epoxy-siloxane resins, and crosslinked
polysilicate resin. used for high gloss and scratch
resistant coatings. I've never worked it so I don't know
much about it, have some on the way and will know more soon.
I dont' know exactly what you are looking for so I'm just
throwing ideas out there. We have a carbon fibre barrel on
our little .22 used for plinking, I love it.
Jason Aube
- Flint, MI, USA
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January 26, 2008
Two-part sports car or speed boat or custom motorcycle varnish
exists, and one company even offers the clear two-part stuff in a
special "spray paint" can in which you have to push a bottom plunger
to mix two ingredients, then you get about six hours until the
contents solidify in the can. The company is
"Alsa Corp" which also sells
all manner of thin decorative laminates for motorcycles and show cars
(too thin to be durable, indent-resistant, or corner-peeling
resistant etc.).
One other option that I have little experience with, but which should
also be heat resistant is "Water Glass" which upon evaporation gives
a true glass layer. It would not likely wet out into a smooth coating
on plastic carbon fiber, but surface treatments exist (such as made
for making glue stick to hydrocarbon plastics or nylon). These
materials are available from McMaster-Carr. They also sell clear
teflon
heat shrink tubing .
Future
Acrylic floor wax is actually pretty good stuff, and goes on so
thin that you needn't worry much about how thick it goes on. It is
removable with ammonia. It's used as an old model airplane canopy
anti-scratch or scuff-coverup trick. Again, if it won't wet the
surface, add some soap or pre-treat the surface with "Nylon" or
"Polypropylene" adhesion promoter liquids first. They are surface
oxidants that quickly evaporate, leaving no residue.
A good car wax is Buffalo Milke, which comes in a spray-on/wipe-off
bottle. One of those late night TV infomercial products, but it
really works well to retain gloss and resist finger prints after a
very easy (non-buffing) application and cotton rag wipe or two.
A dip-coating in very thin yet eventually very hard silicone rubber
indeed sounds like a good idea, after plugging up the ends of the
barrel. Silicone can handle very high temperature compared to other
rubbers. It's also good stuff since although when wet it sticks to
most anything except good Teflon or wet cardboard, it then, when
crosslinked into a hard solid "sheds" both grimey dirt and
hydrocarbon-based oils as well as water, and resists scratching
(since it "gives" momentarily then pops back flat).
Heat build-up compared to a fully metal gun barrel is an interesting
topic to ponder, since less heat would get transferred to a thin
metal tube surrounded by low heat conductive composite graphite/resin
in the first place compared to the huge heat conductivity of solid
steal.
A coating on top of what you already have though, is one more thing
to go wrong by yellowing, becoming brittle, de-laminating, etc.
Mike Matterson
- New York, NY
February 11, 2008
David
People buy carbon fibre because they like the "high tech" look.
They also buy because it is very light for its strength. I suggest
that you research the Winchester 59 shotgun which had a fibreglass
wrapped barrel. It was very light and the recoil was
horrendous.
There is also the question of the pressure wave following the shot
which expands the barrel. I would want to see a lot of testing for
possible de-lamination before I was tempted to buy anything bigger
than .22.
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Geoff Smith
Hampshire, England
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