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Problems in White Phenyl Manufacturing

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Q. I am a manufacturer of white phenyl but I am getting some problems. Some oils gets deposited on top. Slowly the color fades out. Can anyone please give some hint as what could be the reasons.

Rajeshwari
- Mysore, Karnataka, India


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A. It's a normal problem in manufacturing in white phenyl; it's not a matter of worry. Please mix the water and concentrate very slowly , for example, if you are mixing one liter concentrate with 10 liter water then take one liter concentrate and add a few water then mix the concentrate very slowly again add few water and mix it properly then slowly add a little water then again mix the concentrate u will a get thick white colour concentrate and then add water again this is the procedure.

Prithwi Raj Biswas
- Delhi, India


February 13, 2008

A. The response to the following query from Rajeshwari, Mysore:

You can add some amount of gum acacia and stir well during manufacturing of this phenyl emulsion. The deposition of oil on the top will be be emulsified into the aqueous phenyl.

Girish Pargaonkar
- Nashik, Maharashtra, India


December 11, 2008

A. Dear Sir

Reference Ms Rajeswari, Mysore, problem of oil separation.
Many white phenyl manufacturers use various perfumery oils
for this purpose, in most cases these oils are not emulsified properly to mix homogeneously in to the solution
as such the oil separation.

KN Chandrasekhar
- Bangalore, India


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How to make white phenyl more dark? though I am mixing more amount of cutting oil in less water the phenyl is not getting darker. So any of u suggest me how to make white phenyl darker.

Srinivas
chemicals - Hyderabad, Andhrapradesh, India


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Q. Dear sir ,
I make White phenyl but after adding perfume, I get smell of cutting oil.
what to add to avoid that smell.

Louis Robert
- NAGPUR, India


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A. Do add pine oil 1 liter maximum in 200 liters of phenyl there won't be a smell of cutting oil surely ..
regards

Pramod sethi
- New Delhi, India


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Dear Sir,

If you can help me at what percentage of chemical should use to make 1 liter of white concentrated phenyl.


Thanks & Regards.

inderpal Arya
- Delhi, India


February 27, 2008

Dear Sir,

please tell how to prepare the white phenyl and the chemicals used in preparation. As there is a preparation test for the B.Ed student.

Thanks
With Best Wishes

Fareed Ahmed Syed
- Hyderabad, India


May 28, 2008

I am a manufacturer of white phenyl but I am getting some problems, when I add water in concentrate some oil gets deposit on top, slowly the colour fades out, phenyl is not getting darker, I am mixing 1 liter TRO (turkey red oil)and 3 liter pine oil, please suggest.

Raju Upadhyay
- Lucknow, India


September 17, 2008

Problems in white phenyl manufacturing: please let me understand what is gum agasia [ed. note: acacia?].

Kaushik Dave
hobbyist - Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India


October 5, 2008

White phenyl Compound:

Its a raw material for preparation of white phenyl. You can add 1 liter phenyl compound with 10/15 liters of water mixture.

Murthy Manapragada
- Vijayawada, Andhra Pradesh, India


January 17, 2009

take 500 gram of castor oil, 500 grams of pine oil of 32% and mix both in a steel vessel, heat it with steam till till it gets very hot, take 10 grams of caustic and dissolve it in 100 ml water, pour the caustic solution in the mixture of castor/pine. heat it through steam until it turns dark brown and starts to become thick. then let it cool down. then add 200 grams of cutting oil and 100 grams of detol. the compound is ready.

najamuddin.hathiyari
- rajkot, India


April 17, 2009

I am manufacturing white phenyl with out any mixer and packing in plastic bags (1 liter), after weeks storing became water like water or less white, pl. guide me how to overcome the problem.
Thank you.

subroto chatterjee
manufacturer - Pune, Maharashtra, India


September 2, 2009

1.First you test your water on water p.H. meter
2.Your water should be 80-170 in pH (It is Hardness test)
3.If your water is hard you use PGN in Pine oil
4.1 liter 40 ml PGN
5.PGN works for softening the water, and create Hardness white phenyl.
6.lastly I recommend please follow the formula a professional way

with regards,

satya prakash tripathy
- Angul,orissa, India


December 1, 2009

plz tell me how to make a phenyl? I am looking to start a small business at home please help me with details or just give a contact no. of a person to contact for the same.

lalit kansal
rajdeep - pune,maharashtra,India


Hi, Lalit. There have already been a good number of responses. Please try your best to cast your question in terms of what has already been said, so that the page doesn't just run in circles :-)

Sorry but this page is for public technical discussions; for a number of reasons we cannot connect people commercially except to the site's supporting advertisers. Good luck.

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E.
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Brick, New Jersey


January 23, 2010

it is indication of excess pine oil
take proper measured t.r.o 1 part and 3 part of pine oil. shake it uniformly for 5 minutes, the mixture must be in proper ratio,
Wait for 3 days, you will get good result, recently I heard there is one time introduced, if you have details, give full details

rajashekharaswamy
yellow oil on white phenyl - shimoga karnataka, India


March 16, 2010

The Concentrated should be made with TRO not with cutting oil.The concentration of TRO and Pine/TOP should be clear.

Viral Gandhi
home products - Mumbai, India


May 12, 2010

1. I am heating the castor oil 150 grams & pine oil 150 grams.
2.next I mix caustic solution.
3.cooled solution I am mixing cutting oil 200 grams.

problem: separating the cutting oil.

j.v.r.suresh
- vijayawada, India


August 11, 2010

Which type or grade of cutting oil can I use for the white phenyl?

Bharat lalwani
buyer - Rajkot, Gujrat , India

November 20, 2010

What should be the proper dilution ration of pine concentrate with water for maximum dilution ? And should I use emulsifier also along with TRO?

Amol Suryawanshi
industrialist - Ahmedabad, Gujrat, India

January 9, 2011

How to manufacture a white phenyl without cutting oil?

madhusudan tirumalasetty
Manufacturer - pulivendla,Kadpa Dt,A.P St,India
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September 23, 2011

I am currently doing trials for White Phynyl. I have tried with ready made concentrate in which we need to just add Pine Oil available in the market. But there are not up to the mark. So now I am trying to start full in house . If any one can guide, it will be helpful.

Apurva Khandelwal
- Kolkata

October 10, 2011

We are a manufacturer of TRO. While preparing white phenyl confirm purity of TRO: it should be 70% & its pH should be neutral. Take 3 parts pine & 1 part TRO till you get clear transparent brown colour liquid. Take 9 ltr water charge 1 ltr of this conc mix to get 10 lit white phenyl. There will not be any problem of oil separation and fading of colour.
Regards,

Jagdish Shirodkar
- Thane, Maharashtra, India

December 2, 2011

Dear Sir, I am planning to start business of White Phenyl. Can anyone help me to advise what all chemicals are to be used and in which ratio as well as the procedure to make the concentrate.

regards,

Rohit Bahri
- New Delhi, India


December 2, 2011

Hi, Rohit.

Please try your best to study the preceding answers and then cast your questions in terms of what has already been said. It makes no sense for someone to ask a question, have it answered, and then for people to start all over and ask the same question again :-)

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E.
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Brick, New Jersey


December 21, 2011

is there any possibility that we make Phenyl without using cutting oil?

bharat b
- bhuj, gujarat and india


December 21, 2011


Kindly inform if you have testing facilities for checking quality of White Phenyl , Liquid Soap, Toilet / Marble cleaners. In case you don't have arrangements can you pl suggest someone who has.

Thanks & best regards

R.K.Sood

R.K. SOOD
- Kolkata, India.
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