Letter 12341

Copper Iridium Rice Pulling Coin  

I agree that it's C.R.A.P., Marc. We delete all contact info, and ridicule the whole idea, so I hardly think we're assisting the market.

But this is a thread that was published in Metal Finishing magazine, and we don't want to cut-off comments that might come in from a reader. It also places #1 on the search engines, so maybe we're helping to save a potential victim. And frankly, I have greatly enjoyed seeing the pictures of all the different versions of '1616' coins; a picture of another version is printed below.

Ted Mooney, P.E.  finishing.com Brick, New Jersey

 

Hi all,

We give good rates for all rice pulling coin, iridium copper metals, other RP's like wood etc , also we deal in NagaMani , Feather tested and non tested , ground Pumpkin tested and non tested, Red Aloe etc.

SELLERS BE CAUTIOUS: As some buyers get a power Grabbing machine from Germany and steal RP power from it, do not allow them to do any kind of electronics tests.

Middle MEN BE CAUTIOUS: As some duplicates and many cheaters are into this biz, I request people to be careful with proper testing before escrew etc. These coins and metals etc are used for power generation.

Most of the items are coming fake and the tests are BEING DUPLICATED CHEMICALLY which cannot be used for power generation, do the glass water test as described below.

Do the below tests and include the phone numbers also in the mails, see that there is no delay in any communication etc for fast processing
1)Get fresh rice from home preferably fresh dehusked rice, do not use sellers rice as they do gimmicks as they use chemicals kept hidden in finger nails. Keep the rice very near the item for attraction note the time taken and distance pulled and color.
2)Now take these tested rice placed on a flat surface towards untested rice and check for attraction. Mail immediately for further tests and instructions. Some item holders get some duplicate RP's so be careful, during testing SEE THAT THE ITEM HOLDER(SELLER) DOES NOT TOUCH THE ITEM AFTER WASHING IT THOROUGHLY WITH SOAP ETC , HE SHOULDN'T TOUCH IT IN BETWEEN THE TESTS ALSO.
Glass water test: fill a non metallic glass with water and put the 4 tested rice in 4 diagonals floating , after some time they will come towards the center. The rice should turn to yellow or brown color or Black.
4)Check whether the item is magnetic or not, try to identify whether they placed any magnet in between the metals and welded.If a glass bowl , check for inner height and outer height. Be careful with the rice attraction properties as people near Orissa border and other places deceive hypnotically, touching the item in between.

If rice turns to BLUE COLOR then RP is a fake. Wash the item thoroughly and see that the sellers do not touch it.

The 1616 needs a MetaDoxide from Germany for testing and is a costly affair. We can do these deals if things are genuine.

[name removed at writer's request Aug. 04]
- Secunderabad, India

Dear Mr. [name removed at writer's request Aug. 04],

More pictures, will wonders never cease! The patina is a bit better on this round copper looking thing. Note the roughness on the E I C and the color variation. Nice try but no cigar. This one is too easily made with a ceramic crucible and a torch, note the bubbles on the surface. You could put this fake out every night at 4 AM for charging with or without the Defense Dept. for 387 years and it still won't pull rice. I thought you were preoccupied with selling your metal detectors and here you are back again hustling rice pulling coins. I really think the copper/iridium suppositories would sell better than rice pulling coins, the vibrations would be interesting.

Regards,

Jim Sivertsen
- Alden, N.Y., U.S.A.

Jim Sivertsen, thanks for the comments, this coin has come to me from a doctor and others who have done extensive research on these from books and other departments.I think this item is good as it exhibited rainbow colors when metadoxide was put on it.By the way a more powerful 1616 item weighs more than 220 grams and we don't find it anywhere since 2 years. Metal detectors are actually not for sale they are used to lend freely to people who are after these items,this would shorten my time in procuring the items, by the way RP items will cancel all electronic items that are present in the vicinity of them, if these are kept in a metal box then there is a chance to find. Trees will absorb these material and we can't detect them with a metal detector and we buy them.

Regards

[name removed at writer's request Aug. 04]
- Secunderabad, India

Dear Mr. [name removed at writer's request Aug. 04],

Are you sure you didn't get an M.A. in B.S. at the Sharon Hill Institute of Technology here in the U.S.? Copper base coins were minted for the East India Company by Wilkinson Iron Works in England in the latter 1700's. There is no record of earlier minting of copper base coins. Some earlier coins were minted in precious metals but there was no English lettering on them. Coins are minted (struck with dies) not cast, all we have seen is a casting and something that appears to have come out of the south end of a cow. As to magical, mystical properties, children in the U.S. believe in Santa Claus but when they grow up they abandon the belief. I myself once believed in Froggy the Gremlin on Smiling Ed's radio show back in the 1940's (Froggy now appears at the beginning of these long threads.) but now realize he wasn't real. You have never provided scientific evidence of your claims, all we have seen is B.S. You would be better off presenting your B.S. to the publishers of any of the tabloids sold in supermarkets here in the U.S. The Tabloids specialize in Elvis sightings, alien space babies and other related hokum. A scam is a scam and it seems you are trying to gain credibility by posting your B.S. on a credible web site. It's a shame that we no longer have the Monty Python comedy team, the dead parrot sketch could have been modified by using a defective copper/iridium rice pulling coin in place of the parrot.

Regards,

Jim Sivertsen
- Alden, N.Y., U.S.A.

Rice Pulling items, is a name given to prove that the material is genuine and rice is a non metallic Hydride,and it pulls the hydrogen and makes it a powder. These items are not made from earth bound materials, long time back some meteorites fell to earth and combining these with locally available copper from which these are made. Iridium is not only the content, a fraction of these, I think these contain "Dark Matter" like substances like WIMPS etc. These interfere with all kinds of electronics etc. 1616 is a powerful Libo/Lebbo when the three points are closed with a carbon all electronics fail and a good test is it should vibrate violently when caught in palms. 1717, 1818 coins are plain RP's used for power generation etc. There are other items like plates , glasses , tree pulps , bones which have these properties.

[name removed at writer's request Aug. 04]
- Secunderabad, India

I thought that Froggy was part of the "Buster Brown Show" sponsored by Buster Brown Shoes.

James Watts
- FL

When I look at the whole discussion for over two years at a quick glance, I notice that these Indian fellows are having their own dialog and introduction to each other on this website for some sort of scam. Nice way of using a foreign website!!! Either they are selling stolen ancient artifacts or "Ganja", whatever it is!!! They do not care about anybody's comments, and they are in their own world. I suggest Ted, you just cut off this thread of communication (unless you are having fun with it).

Mandar Sunthankar
- Ft. Collins, CO

Jim Sivertsen and others, don't speak generally in a non technical way. There is text book on metallurgy and it says the coins discovered by Ramanujam. People from Finishing.Com should read the book or other book from their American Libraries. During 1950's only these items are 5000000 rupees per gram in the international Burma Market, and you don't have enough money or time to enquire about it. Actually these are confidential matters and as I need to procure these very fast I need to take these on internet. In India coins were minted long time, if you need to do some activity on these contact Lawrence Livermore National Lab or other labs. I not only buy these but I buy Red Aloe, a special kind of species available in India for 0.1 Million Dollars per Kg and similarly for the Ground Pumpkin too.

[name removed at writer's request Aug. 04]
- Secunderabad, India

Okay, [name removed at writer's request Aug. 04], many people have been urging us to discontinue this thread and I guess it's time because:

I haven't been able to find a single book at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or my county library on ANY of the keywords in these years of discussions.

You urge us to contact L.L. National Labs about this. I, and many readers here know the former head of the metals section, and we know his opinions towards junk science.

As the rice-pulling coin idea has been thoroughly debunked and is rapidly losing ground, we see you now laying the groundwork for the next scams of The Great Pumpkin; sorry, but this thread is dedicated to Froggy Gremlin, not to Charlie Brown.

Ted Mooney, P.E. 
finishing.com
Brick, New Jersey 

Dear Mr. [name removed at writer's request Aug. 04], I knew it, you did get your M.A. in B.S. at Sharon Hill Institute of Technology. Now it's rice pulling power from Dark Matter and WIMPS (Weakly Interactive Massive Particles)in copper/iridium rice pulling coins. I love this one. Seeing it's difficult to detect WIMPS or verify their existence, it's a good way to explain rice pulling energy in the copper/iridium rice pulling coins. If you must measure the rice pulling power of copper/iridium coins,you will need to build a Heronimus Machine (covered by U.S.Patent). One slight modification is needed and that is to disconnect the negative lead from the detector plate and attach it securely to a copper/iridium suppository. A blindfold must be worn to minimize the Heisenberg Principle (The act of observation effects and changes the observed phenomenon). When everything is ready for the test, place the object to be tested on the focal point plate in the machine, insert the copper/iridium suppository, put on the blindfold and place your fingers on the detector plate. If the coin is the genuine item, a strong vibration will be felt through the copper/iridium suppository. Be careful as flatulence can cause a false positive. The Heronimus machine has no electrical connection and will easily detect WIMPS as it runs on Psyonic power. One additional note; be sure to remove the carbon paper before inserting the copper/iridium suppository.

Regards,

Jim Sivertsen
- Alden N.Y. U.S.A.

Ed. note: For a long time we've been receiving "offers to buy" rice-pulling coins at astronomical prices, immediately followed by offers to sell them at somewhat lower prices -- but coming from the same IP address. Thus the offers to buy are obviously fictitious, designed only to mislead potential buyers into believing that there is a resale market. Lately we have been receiving postings in support of the assertions here claiming to come from Los Angeles, California-- but in fact the IP address shows the messages are actually coming from India.

This thread has been grand fun for a long time now, but because of these time-consuming fictitious postings and the fact that it's all been said, let's consider this thread closed, folks.

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